Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by S.T.Fanatic » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:15 pm

None of it matters. There is no way that the County is going to allow the expansion. (at least not what is/was originally asked of)

I'd tell them to put in a Bioreactor (device that separates liquids from solids and burns off the methane creating electricity in the process and makes for much better fertilizer) as well as collect the storm water from the setups roof tops and farm away.

There is several acres of roof tops close together. A one inch rain fall produces well over 25,000 gallons of water per acre. We average easily over 25" of rain per year with an assumed increase in the future. That'well over a half million gallons of storm water per acre provided its captured.

There is always a way to go about something with very little if any environmental impact. With the way that the government gives out money or cost shares for ag it wouldn't be cost prohibitive.
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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by brntrout » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:50 pm

S.T.Fanatic wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:15 pm
None of it matters. There is no way that the County is going to allow the expansion. (at least not what is/was originally asked of)

I'd tell them to put in a Bioreactor (device that separates liquids from solids and burns off the methane creating electricity in the process and makes for much better fertilizer) as well as collect the storm water from the setups roof tops and farm away.

There is several acres of roof tops close together. A one inch rain fall produces well over 25,000 gallons of water per acre. We average easily over 25" of rain per year with an assumed increase in the future. That'well over a half million gallons of storm water per acre provided its captured.

There is always a way to go about something with very little if any environmental impact. With the way that the government gives out money or cost shares for ag it wouldn't be cost prohibitive.
I guess I have not followed this story close enough. What is left for the farmer to do in order to get his expansion approved?
Cam, I get the feeling from what you said, the County Board of Commissioner have yet to approved this proposed expansion?

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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by S.T.Fanatic » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:56 pm

brntrout wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:50 pm
S.T.Fanatic wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:15 pm
None of it matters. There is no way that the County is going to allow the expansion. (at least not what is/was originally asked of)

I'd tell them to put in a Bioreactor (device that separates liquids from solids and burns off the methane creating electricity in the process and makes for much better fertilizer) as well as collect the storm water from the setups roof tops and farm away.

There is several acres of roof tops close together. A one inch rain fall produces well over 25,000 gallons of water per acre. We average easily over 25" of rain per year with an assumed increase in the future. That'well over a half million gallons of storm water per acre provided its captured.

There is always a way to go about something with very little if any environmental impact. With the way that the government gives out money or cost shares for ag it wouldn't be cost prohibitive.
I guess I have not followed this story close enough. What is left for the farmer to do in order to get his expansion approved?
Cam, I get the feeling from what you said, the County Board of Commissioner have yet to approved this proposed expansion?
Under the table payment? I cant see that the county is going to allow it but what do I know. They were able to expand in the past due to a variance I dont see them getting one again but time will tell.

As far as I know they county hasnt ruled on the issue yet.
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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by S.T.Fanatic » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:29 pm

“What more delightful avocation than to take a piece of land and by cautious experimentation to prove how it works. What more substantial service to conservation than to practice it on one's own land?” Aldo Leopold

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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by brntrout » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:30 pm

I'm not surprise LSP is suing the MPCA. I'm also not surprised the MPCA ok'ed the permit for this facility. Depending on which side you're on its definitely a sh-tty deal either way! :lol:

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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by S.T.Fanatic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 am

I'm not surprised MPCA approved it either. They did their job as they should have. I'm also not surprised that the LSP is suing. If they had to do it with their own money it would never happen though.
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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by brntrout » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:10 am

S.T.Fanatic wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 am
I'm not surprised MPCA approved it either. They did their job as they should have. I'm also not surprised that the LSP is suing. If they had to do it with their own money it would never happen though.
The LSP is a private non profit organization that is supported by its members and through donations. I'm pretty sure all their legal costs are paid through donations or by Pro Bono services.

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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by S.T.Fanatic » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:00 pm

brntrout wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:10 am
S.T.Fanatic wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 am
I'm not surprised MPCA approved it either. They did their job as they should have. I'm also not surprised that the LSP is suing. If they had to do it with their own money it would never happen though.
The LSP is a private non profit organization that is supported by its members and through donations. I'm pretty sure all their legal costs are paid through donations or by Pro Bono services.

https://landstewardshipproject.org/about/mission
By the looks of that I stand at least partially corrected on my above couple of statements. Thanks Tom
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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by brntrout » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Different subject, have you been out fishing yet? I haven't had a chance yet. This crappy weather has really put a damper on fishing!

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Re: Feedlot Public Meeting TONIGHT (10/16) in Lewiston

Post by S.T.Fanatic » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:52 am

Rumor has it that if Winona County doesn't approve this expansion it will be built near Pilot Mount. Talk about a huge loss for Winona Co. Good thing there isn't any sink holes in Filmore Co.
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